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mcu_cosmic2019-01-27 02:23 pm
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Marvel Update to Loki's Bio
Hello, friends! Welcome to your Sunday discussion post. This week's topic:
About a month ago, Marvel updated their official character bio for Loki to include this retcon:
Arriving at the Sanctuary through a wormhole caused by the Bifrost, Loki met the Other, ruler of the ancient race of extraterrestrials the Chitauri, and Thanos. Offering the God of Mischief dominion over his brother’s favorite realm Earth, Thanos requested the Tesseract in return. Gifted with a Scepter that acted as a mind control device, Loki would be able to influence others. Unbeknownst to him, the Scepter was also influencing him, fueling his hatred over his brother Thor and the inhabitants of Earth. [my emphasis]
What's your opinion on this "official" statement? How do you interpret it? Was Loki mind-controlled or merely made crankier than usual, the way Bruce was when he was holding the scepter during the big argument scene in The Avengers?
Does this change your view on Loki's character or his behavior? Is Marvel's "official" statement different from your head canon?
And why do you think they felt the need to update his MCU bio now, seven years after The Avengers was released in theatres?
About a month ago, Marvel updated their official character bio for Loki to include this retcon:
Arriving at the Sanctuary through a wormhole caused by the Bifrost, Loki met the Other, ruler of the ancient race of extraterrestrials the Chitauri, and Thanos. Offering the God of Mischief dominion over his brother’s favorite realm Earth, Thanos requested the Tesseract in return. Gifted with a Scepter that acted as a mind control device, Loki would be able to influence others. Unbeknownst to him, the Scepter was also influencing him, fueling his hatred over his brother Thor and the inhabitants of Earth. [my emphasis]
What's your opinion on this "official" statement? How do you interpret it? Was Loki mind-controlled or merely made crankier than usual, the way Bruce was when he was holding the scepter during the big argument scene in The Avengers?
Does this change your view on Loki's character or his behavior? Is Marvel's "official" statement different from your head canon?
And why do you think they felt the need to update his MCU bio now, seven years after The Avengers was released in theatres?
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Natalie Portman didn't like the script, she thought that Jane was turned into a plot device (she wasn't wrong).
Not at all. I can totally see why she didn't want to come back for the next installment.
A draft was written where Loki didn't appear because they worried that Hiddleston would outshine Hemsworth in his own movie. (which in my opinion he kind of did, honestly)
He absolutely did, but I don't really see that as Hemsworth's fault. They just didn't give Thor any interesting character growth in TDW. His story was so much better in Ragnarok.
I knew that Whedon had script-doctored the scene with Loki in chains, but I didn't realize he wrote the scene of Loki imitating Cap. In retrospect, I should have known, because it was the funniest scene in the whole movie. I'm not the Whedon fan I used to be but he can still make me laugh.
I'm not a huge fan of TDW anyway, but without those scenes...few. That would have been a real snoozefest.
As cheesy as it is, I still love Loki's fake-death scene in TDW. Not only is it well acted, it was the first time I really bought into the idea that these two brothers loved each other. All the tender moments between them in the original Thor were cut from the theater release, and only ever showed up as "deleted scenes" extras, which I didn't see until years later.
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Yeah, Whedon isn't as easy to love has he used to be but I will always respect his script sense. He knows how to write a good story and give characters moments of depth to shine. :)
I also really love his fake death! But I do think the added scenes really help you understand why he does it. The scene with Odin especially, since it lets us know that Loki has absolutely zero chance of getting mercy from Odin. It makes his decision understandable, even if it is a crazy idea.
However it happened, I'm just glad we got so much great Loki development in 2! Those are all among my favorite Loki scenes.