Clint's spree used to be Kiss of Death to a character (not that anyone stays dead besides Uncle Ben now.) Once it happened, sure, not particularly surprised.
Supposedly they meant it to be Clint, and then A Woman Working on the Film said to them 'This is Natasha's, don't you dare take that way from her' (I totally believe that happened!) and a couple of other Women on the Film said the same thing, and the writers were all, THEY'RE RIGHT, this is her HEROISM. Because a woman heroically sacrificing herself for other people (especially a man) has never been told before! whatever. And then of course the immense manpain they all feel, complete with her never being mentioned in the entire film again until five seconds at the end, goes along with classic fridging. (There are arguments over whether it was "really" fridging or not, but I think it follows the emotional pattern: beautiful woman dies, men are pushed to emotional brink, there's recovery without her.)
Gamora and Natasha's rearing seem very similar once Thanos and the Red Room respectively come into play. But through the camera framing, the tears, Thanos is not repudiated in the same terms that the Red Room is.
I think that's a really good point. Especially given how Nat infamously has the "monster" line, and she and Gamora have both been shaped into weapons of death, but Thanos did it all on his loathsome and yet we're supposed to feel sympathy for him and Infinity War is basically "he wins."
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Supposedly they meant it to be Clint, and then A Woman Working on the Film said to them 'This is Natasha's, don't you dare take that way from her' (I totally believe that happened!) and a couple of other Women on the Film said the same thing, and the writers were all, THEY'RE RIGHT, this is her HEROISM. Because a woman heroically sacrificing herself for other people (especially a man) has never been told before! whatever. And then of course the immense manpain they all feel, complete with her never being mentioned in the entire film again until five seconds at the end, goes along with classic fridging. (There are arguments over whether it was "really" fridging or not, but I think it follows the emotional pattern: beautiful woman dies, men are pushed to emotional brink, there's recovery without her.)
Gamora and Natasha's rearing seem very similar once Thanos and the Red Room respectively come into play. But through the camera framing, the tears, Thanos is not repudiated in the same terms that the Red Room is.
I think that's a really good point. Especially given how Nat infamously has the "monster" line, and she and Gamora have both been shaped into weapons of death, but Thanos did it all on his loathsome and yet we're supposed to feel sympathy for him and Infinity War is basically "he wins."